Comments on: Blogging about logging.. http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/ Trying to prove we are human, too Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:27:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Adam1213 http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-161757 Adam1213 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:37:54 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-161757 I have an idea of how we could find the bots that do logging. Users suspected of running bots could be sent messages that only they get so that these customised messages would be in there logs and be traceable back to the user (as having been sent that message) - The obvious way around this would be that bots would have 2 connections and if they had a discrepancy they would leave it out of the log. A way of solving this would be to send messages to groups of users so that the bots would have some common messages, and some that do not match. Based on the info logged and the messages sent the users could be tracked down. I have an idea of how we could find the bots that do logging.
Users suspected of running bots could be sent messages that only they get so that these customised messages would be in there logs and be traceable back to the user (as having been sent that message)

- The obvious way around this would be that bots would have 2 connections and if they had a discrepancy they would leave it out of the log. A way of solving this would be to send messages to groups of users so that the bots would have some common messages, and some that do not match. Based on the info logged and the messages sent the users could be tracked down.

]]> By: Irrendaacrora http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-152949 Irrendaacrora Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:12:28 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-152949 Thnx very interesting. Thnx very interesting.

]]> By: hoodayAccotly http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-151836 hoodayAccotly Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:46:52 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-151836 Hi people! The interesting name of a site - blog.freenode.net I today 9 hours has spent to the Internet So I have found your site :) The interesting site but does not suffice several sections! However this section is very necessary! Best wishes for you! Forgive I is drunk :)) Hi people!
The interesting name of a site – blog.freenode.net
I today 9 hours
has spent to the Internet So I have found your site :)
The interesting site but does not suffice several sections!
However this section is very necessary!
Best wishes for you!
Forgive I is drunk :) )

]]> By: werutzb http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-147625 werutzb Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:28:31 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-147625 Hi! I would like improve my SQL experience. I red so many SQL resources and want to read more about SQL for my occupation as oracle database manager. What would you recommend? Thanks, Werutz Hi!

I would like improve my SQL experience.
I red so many SQL resources and want to
read more about SQL for my occupation as oracle database manager.

What would you recommend?

Thanks,
Werutz

]]> By: VQMSj http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-115021 VQMSj Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:21:01 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-115021 Now I know Youre Amazing, Great Visions, Now I know Youre Amazing, Great Visions,

]]> By: On Message by Ben Gross » Blog Archive » Link roundup for 12/7/07 http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-74789 On Message by Ben Gross » Blog Archive » Link roundup for 12/7/07 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:27:26 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-74789 [...] Blogging about logging..: The staff at Freenode describe the recent widespread disclosure of the IRseeK IRC logging service which was logging a great many IRC channels. IRseek posted the logs as well as an interface to search across the collection. SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Link roundup for 12/7/07", url: "http://www.messagingnews.com/onmessage/2007/12/07/link-roundup-for-12707/" }); [...] [...] Blogging about logging..: The staff at Freenode describe the recent widespread disclosure of the IRseeK IRC logging service which was logging a great many IRC channels. IRseek posted the logs as well as an interface to search across the collection. SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: “Link roundup for 12/7/07″, url: “http://www.messagingnews.com/onmessage/2007/12/07/link-roundup-for-12707/” }); [...]

]]> By: qwstnevrythg.com » Questionable Data Mining Concerns IRC Community http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-61841 qwstnevrythg.com » Questionable Data Mining Concerns IRC Community Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:51:11 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-61841 [...] which could date back to 2005. As a result, Freenode, the largest FOSS IRC network in existence, immediately banned all tor connections while the community gathered and set up a public wiki page to share knowledge and news about [...] [...] which could date back to 2005. As a result, Freenode, the largest FOSS IRC network in existence, immediately banned all tor connections while the community gathered and set up a public wiki page to share knowledge and news about [...]

]]> By: igli http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-37697 igli Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:42:50 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-37697 I should hope so too; afaic those logs were taken in breach of Data Protection legislation in the UK and EU. It's one thing to walk into a shopping mall where there is a TV camera crew, quite another to have someone following you covertly with a microphone recording everything you say in conversation with your peers. The first is the equivalent of a channel whose /topic says "This channel is logged." A user can expect logs to be used by an official channel in the case of disputes, but this is nothing like the same as giving consent for every word to be published on the web, in clear breach of user copyright. It comes down to the "reasonable expectation of privacy" and given the publically published policy of Freenode, this is in clear breach of the contract implicit by agreeing to the terms of service for the network. I give freenode a non-exclusive royalty free license to transfer my words within the network I never gave that company a license so are they going to pay the usual rate of 10$/word? ;-) I should hope so too; afaic those logs were taken in breach of Data Protection legislation in the UK and EU. It’s one thing to walk into a shopping mall where there is a TV camera crew, quite another to have someone following you covertly with a microphone recording everything you say in conversation with your peers.

The first is the equivalent of a channel whose /topic says “This channel is logged.” A user can expect logs to be used by an official channel in the case of disputes, but this is nothing like the same as giving consent for every word to be published on the web, in clear breach of user copyright.

It comes down to the “reasonable expectation of privacy” and given the publically published policy of Freenode, this is in clear breach of the contract implicit by agreeing to the terms of service for the network.

I give freenode a non-exclusive royalty free license to transfer my words within the network
I never gave that company a license
so are they going to pay the usual rate of 10$/word?

;-)

]]> By: AndrewB http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-36605 AndrewB Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:56:49 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-36605 I would like to point out that irseek has currently shut down and turn attention to their blog post; http://www.irseek.com/blog/?p=3 I would like to point out that irseek has currently shut down and turn attention to their blog post;
http://www.irseek.com/blog/?p=3

]]> By: IRSeek Suspends Service - Betaflow http://blog.freenode.net/2007/12/blogging-about-logging/comment-page-1/#comment-36581 IRSeek Suspends Service - Betaflow Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:20:46 +0000 http://blog.freenode.net/?p=62#comment-36581 [...] Techdirt Update (12/4 20:20): Here are freenode’s (an IRC network) remarks on IRSeeK. The way IRSeeK went about this seems pretty slimy, using Tor to hide their bots with two [...] [...] Techdirt Update (12/4 20:20): Here are freenode’s (an IRC network) remarks on IRSeeK. The way IRSeeK went about this seems pretty slimy, using Tor to hide their bots with two [...]

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